{"id":19783,"date":"2020-03-12T06:32:14","date_gmt":"2020-03-12T11:32:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/joemckeever.com\/wp\/?p=19783"},"modified":"2020-03-14T09:06:49","modified_gmt":"2020-03-14T14:06:49","slug":"lack-of-integrity-in-a-pastor-is-a-deal-breaker","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/joemckeever.com\/wp\/lack-of-integrity-in-a-pastor-is-a-deal-breaker\/","title":{"rendered":"Lack of integrity in a pastor is a deal-breaker"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I was the student minister in a fine church many years ago.\u00a0 We had a wonderful ministry. The single negative about the entire experience was the pastor. You never knew what he would do next.<\/p>\n<p>Case in point. One night in a church business meeting, the pastor announced that the property the church owned, including the former pastorium, was being offered for sale. At the time, my wife and I were living in that house! And now we learn they\u2019re selling it. This was the first we had heard of it.<\/p>\n<p>That night, my wife was angry because she thought I had known about it and not told her. But that was the way this pastor worked.<\/p>\n<p>Staff members were nothing to him. Just pawns to be manipulated.<\/p>\n<p>I sat there listening to longtime friend Will tell of that experience from some years back and thought once again that the number one trait a staff member is looking for in his\/her new pastor\u2013employer, supervisor, and hopefully\u00a0 mentor\u2013is integrity.<\/p>\n<p>Without integrity, nothing matters.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Will said the one thing that pastor really cared about was his overseas mission work.\u00a0 Everything in church either served it or had no use. The ministerial staff could be manipulated, violated, and emasculated by the pastor if it served his purposes.<\/p>\n<p>Is this extreme? Thank the Lord, I think it is.\u00a0 But there is enough dishonesty, misrepresentations, and deceit in the pastorate to make every potential staff member pause before accepting an invitation to join a church team.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Question: How does one inquire about the integrity of a pastor who is considering inviting you to work for him?<br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>1) Ask around.\u00a0 Former staff members will usually tell you freely whether the man keeps his word, whether he looks out for his staff members, whether he is dependable.\u00a0 Ask denominational people who know him.\u00a0 Ask the pastor who preceded him at this church or the one who succeeded him at his previous church.<\/p>\n<p>Most will tell you enough that you can feel you know the answer.\u00a0 A clue: if they hem and haw, nothing more is needed; they\u2019ve told you all you need to know. (Remember: you\u2019re not looking to build a case for or against the man. All you want to know is whether legitimate questions about his honesty and dependability have been raised. If so&#8211;unless the Lord tells you otherwise in no uncertain terms&#8211;you are gone.)<\/p>\n<p>2) Ask the Lord. Talk to the Father about that preacher. If you have concerns, tell Him.\u00a0 If you have seen nothing but good, tell Him that too, but ask Him in so many words to stop you if this is not going to be a good match.\u00a0 Then, wait on Him for directions.<\/p>\n<p>3) Ask your spouse. In my observation, wives tend to be more sensitive than their men about subliminal messages other people send out. So, assuming she meets this minister, pay close attention to her impression afterwards. (It goes without saying you should never move your family to a church without your wife being in on the interview\u2013at some point\u2013and in support of the decision.)<\/p>\n<p>Do not ask about a pastor&#8217;s integrity in a letter or email. Those things take on a life of their own and people are afraid to put negatives in writing. This must be done in person or by phone.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Do not join a church staff where the pastor is a liar or cheat or con man. Or is rumored to be such.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>This sounds so obvious, saying it may insult your intelligence. But not so.<\/p>\n<p><strong>But someone protests.\u00a0 &#8220;Yes, there are questions about the pastor&#8217;s truthfulness, but&#8230;&#8221;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>&#8211;a) It\u2019s such a good opportunity.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Say for instance, the young minister is eager to join the staff of a sizeable church and get to work pouring himself into teenagers. \u00a0 He has a passion for reaching kids for Jesus. And now, to his elation, he has been approached by a church\u2019s \u201cstudent minister search committee.\u201d This is too good to be true. He\u00a0 is impressed by the wonderful people as they are with him.There is, however, one little snag: A couple of friends keep telling him the pastor is a bear to work for and that the previous staff members could not wait to leave. That\u2019s where the second concern comes in\u2026.<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8211;b) The committee gives such assurance.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>When the young minister raises the issue of the pastor\u2019s questionable reputation, the chairman assures him that all of that has been taken care of, it\u2019s ancient history, it\u2019s overblown, and\/or \u201cthe fellow you probably talked to was fired and didn\u2019t like it.\u201d\u00a0 Most of all, the chairman assures the young man that he will indeed be able to work with this pastor because (ahem) \u201cwe will stand with you and take care of you.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>No, they won\u2019t.<\/p>\n<p>They may mean well, but they are promising what they cannot deliver.<\/p>\n<p>You will work with and for the pastor. You will see him daily, and the laypeople perhaps weekly. Think of that. Furthermore, if you ran to the chairman with details of every conversation with the pastor, a hundred things could result from that, all of them bad.<\/p>\n<p>Search committees go out of business once they have done their job. This committee will no longer be an entity in the church; its members will not meet regularly with the young minister they recommended, and if they did it would raise serious questions within the rest of the membership (like, \u201cWhy can\u2019t they turn him loose? They\u2019ve done their job.\u201d).<\/p>\n<p><em>Once you join a church staff, young minister, you will work under the pastor. And unless this is a mega-church, you will relate to him more than anyone else in the church. He will define almost every single aspect of your ministry.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>So, choose your pastor carefully.<\/p>\n<p><strong>One final caution\u2026.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Sometimes, the alert you sense in your spirit comes from the Holy Spirit and is not the result of a phone call or a bad reference.<\/p>\n<p>As a young minister, I was a staffer of a large Baptist church and being contacted regularly by search committees. One day, the pastor of an equally large church in a nearby state called to inquire if I would consider joining his staff as his assistant.\u00a0 A few days later, he was in our city and came by my office.\u00a0 He was charming and offered the moon.<\/p>\n<p>At the end of an hour, I knew this was not going to happen.<\/p>\n<p>The Holy Spirit put a \u201chold\u201d on my spirit. That is all it should take for any of us.\u00a0 We don\u2019t need a reason and we definitely do not need to give the other person an explanation. But the crowning event came for me when this pastor, a man perhaps the age of my father, wrapped his huge arm around me as we walked down the hallway.\u00a0 I knew at that moment that were I to join his staff, I would feel like a child with him as the grandfather. And that is one thing no minister of God needs.<\/p>\n<p>Listen to your heart, child of God. Obey the Spirit. Love God\u2019s people. Rejoice always.<\/p>\n<p>Rules for living.<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was the student minister in a fine church many years ago.\u00a0 We had a wonderful ministry. The single negative about the entire experience was the pastor. You never knew what he would do next. Case in point. 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