{"id":20338,"date":"2020-05-21T17:09:08","date_gmt":"2020-05-21T22:09:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/joemckeever.com\/wp\/?p=20338"},"modified":"2020-05-21T17:09:30","modified_gmt":"2020-05-21T22:09:30","slug":"some-believe-we-can-lose-our-salvation-heres-what-they-are-missing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/joemckeever.com\/wp\/some-believe-we-can-lose-our-salvation-heres-what-they-are-missing\/","title":{"rendered":"Some believe we can lose our salvation.  Here&#8217;s what they are missing."},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In an article on this website, I shared a couple of the strongest affirmations of Scripture which declare that our salvation, once given by the Lord Jesus Christ, is forever secure.<\/p>\n<p>Our salvation in Christ is safe, solid, secure.\u00a0 This is called the doctrine of the security of the believer.\u00a0 We are saved forever. \u00a0It&#8217;s basic scripture.<\/p>\n<p>Or so I thought.<\/p>\n<p>Some readers objected and even protested.<\/p>\n<p>I should not have been surprised. After all, I was raised in a denomination of the Arminian persuasion which teaches the possibility of losing one&#8217;s salvation and then regaining it.\u00a0\u00a0Now, I never heard our home church pastor say anything like that.\u00a0 But it seems to have been part of that church&#8217;s doctrine.<\/p>\n<p>I recall hearing a family member speaking disparagingly of Southern Baptists. \u00a0\u201cThey believe you can get saved today, go out tonight and get drunk, and still be saved tomorrow.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Which is true, of course.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s not our favorite way to express it. And most definitely not something we encourage. But one&#8217;s salvation has to be stronger than Jack Daniels or we are all in big trouble!<\/p>\n<p>So, I&#8217;d like to return to the subject and go a little further into this mighty important subject.\u00a0 See what you think.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ONE.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Those who believe in the possibility of losing salvation will quote scriptures which they say we must answer, texts about \u201cfalling from grace\u201d and \u201cmaking shipwreck.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I get that, but they are missing something.<\/p>\n<p>They have it exactly backward. Anyone who believes in the possibility of losing salvation must respond to a thousand statements to the contrary found throughout the Word. They can start with John 3:16 where Jesus says \u201cWhosoever believeth in me <em>shall not perish<\/em> but have <em>everlasting life<\/em>.\u201d What does <em>shall not perish<\/em> mean, and what does <em>everlasting life<\/em> mean?<\/p>\n<p>These are not hard questions.<\/p>\n<p>When they finish, they can stay in the same chapter and look at verse 36.<em> Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Why in the world would the Lord would say such a thing if it was conditional on anything and could be reversed by something we do?<\/p>\n<p>We are not proof-texting here (that comes later!), but simply pointing out that there are hundreds of references in the New Testament to eternal life, never die, shall not perish, and such.<\/p>\n<p>Does the Bible mean what it says?<\/p>\n<p>The Word calls believers \u201cchildren of God\u201d and \u201csons of God.\u201d Can a child become not a son or daughter? Did God choose the wrong metaphors? Should He have said we become <em>friends of God<\/em> instead of children?\u00a0 Friends come and go, but a child is yours forever.<\/p>\n<p>The point here is that rather than demanding that we answer those few scriptures which seem to say something contrary to this doctrine, the nay-sayer must answer those hundreds of texts which plainly declare that salvation is forever.<\/p>\n<p><strong>TWO.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>My hunch is some think of the Lord\u2019s teachings the way we view modern commercials or the promises of politicians, that they are so much hyperbole and not to be taken literally.\u00a0 Just as we know the uselessness of holding a candidate to his campaign promises\u2013he would say, \u201cWell, circumstances have changed\u201d\u2013some think we must give our Lord wiggle room to have exaggerated or oversold His product.<\/p>\n<p>I find that most troubling.<\/p>\n<p>Did Jesus exaggerate the security of the believer? Did He overstate Himself when He said \u201cshall never perish\u201d?\u00a0 If you say He did and that we should not hold Him to a high standard, then the discussion ends here, because we&#8217;re not talking about the same Jesus.<\/p>\n<p>Jesus is The Truth.\u00a0 He is our Authority.\u00a0 If we cannot believe Him when He speaks of salvation, then nothing He says has meaning.<\/p>\n<p><strong>THREE.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Take John 10:27-29, which is as strong a statement as Scripture contains on the subject. (But do not overlook the fact that the New Testament contains many such statements, each just as solid and affirmative.)<\/p>\n<p><em>My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give eternal life to them, and they shall never perish; and no one shall snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who gave them to me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father\u2019s hand.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>How wonderful is that? How precious and assuring.<\/p>\n<p>Question: What does it mean? Stop and consider that.\u00a0 Do it for the next year, then we\u2019ll talk!<\/p>\n<p>A sweet and sincere friend said to me, \u201cWell, no one else can snatch them out of God\u2019s hand, but surely I can take myself out.\u201d She explained, \u201cI made the decision to come in and I can make the decision to go out. It just makes sense.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Am I the only one troubled to see how loosely we play with the Lord\u2019s statements and how lightly we take His promises?<\/p>\n<p>My response to her is three-fold:<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8211;1) You did not make the decision to \u201ccome in\u201d on your own<\/em>. Jesus said, \u201cNo one can come to me unless the Father draw him\u201d (John 6:44). Free will has its place, to be sure. God does not force salvation on anyone.<\/p>\n<p>However.<\/p>\n<p>Surely no one believes that the Father looked up in surprise one day and was so excited to find out that we were coming to Him for salvation. \u201cHey, Gabriel! You\u2019re not going to believe this! Old Sarge is walking the aisle. Alert the angel band. Big news!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Our coming to salvation was initiated by Him. Even faith is a gift of God, we\u2019re told (Ephesians 2:8-9).<\/p>\n<p>This isn\u2019t Calvinism, friend (for anyone wanting to detour down that side road). It isn\u2019t any \u201cism.\u201d This is just the Word.<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8211;2) When we came to Jesus for salvation, we were born again by the Spirit of God and were forever changed.<\/em> We are new creations in Christ. We have become children of the living God, our names recorded in the book of life. I am not the same \u2018me\u2019 as before.<\/p>\n<p>There is no undoing of that.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s why we cannot just walk in and out of salvation as though it were a civic club\u00a0 we joined or a college class we decided to drop. \u00a0Salvation changes us for all time.\u00a0 It does something irreversible.<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8211;3) Did you notice that our Lord said, \u201cMy Father, who has given them to Me is greater than all\u201d?<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Is God faithless? \u00a0Does He give today only to take back tomorrow? Does He make these great promises but later point to the fine print like a hot-shot salesman in your living room?<\/p>\n<p>If I can take myself out of Jesus\u2019 hand and out of the Father\u2019s hand, does this make me \u201cgreater\u201d than God? It would seem.<\/p>\n<p><strong>FOUR.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Even such a seemingly innocuous line as Luke 10:20 teaches the security of believers. Jesus cautioned the disciples not to rejoice over successes from their preaching missions, but \u201crejoice that your names are written in heaven.\u201d Sooner or later every disciple learns that our missions and revivals do not always bear fruit. \u00a0If our joy comes from the results of our labors, we will sometimes be excited and thrilled, and at other times disappointed and depressed.<\/p>\n<p>Jesus wants none of that. He wants His disciples always rejoicing.<\/p>\n<p>So, He did something wonderful and profound: <em>He tied our joy to our salvation<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>When Jesus told His followers to rejoice \u201cthat your names are written in Heaven,\u201d He was assuring a constant flow of thanksgiving and rejoicing by His people. After all, this salvation of His does not fluctuate, is not conditional on anything. It\u2019s settled once and for all.<\/p>\n<p>No other interpretation makes any sense. If we can have salvation and lose it, then get it back and lose it again, the Lord chose the wrong metaphor and is guilty of misleading His people.<\/p>\n<p>Do not miss that.\u00a0 If we can lose our salvation, then the Lord has misled His people.\u00a0 And that is a serious charge to make.<\/p>\n<p><strong>FIVE.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Now, on the subject of losing your salvation and getting it back\u2026..<\/p>\n<p>Show me where it happened.<\/p>\n<p>Scripture has not a single instance of anyone losing his salvation and then getting it back. Not one.<\/p>\n<p>In fact, Hebrews 6:4-6 points out that if someone did in fact lose their salvation, it would be impossible for them to be saved again since that would require Jesus going to the cross all over again.<\/p>\n<p>To save you a second time would necessitate a second Calvary.<\/p>\n<p>(Important note: We are aware that Hebrews 6:4-6 implies the possibility of losing one\u2019s salvation. That\u2019s one of the difficult texts we have to deal with. But do not miss the major thrust of the point the inspired writer is making: The impossibility of being saved twice. In fact, the writer seems to be saying that if one loses salvation, that\u2019s it for them forever.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>SIX.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>If I were the devil, I would want God\u2019s people to be in constant turmoil, worrying about their salvation. Even though they could point to a time when they repented and received Christ, I\u2019d have them worrying if they had done something since to reverse the situation. I\u2019d stir them up to feel guilty over every sin and tormented by their doubts and fears.<\/p>\n<p>That way, we would not have to worry about them doing anything for Jesus to reach others. People preoccupied with their own slippery standing will not be rescuing the dying around them.<\/p>\n<p>My question to you: Why not choose to believe the Lord Jesus above your own fears?<\/p>\n<p>Finally, even though I suggested that you meditate on John 10:27-29 for the next year somewhat in jest, it\u2019s not a bad idea. In fact, stay with the entire chapter. It\u2019s a mother lode of spiritual insights and blessings.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SEVEN.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.\u00a0 Everlasting life.\u00a0 That means it never ends.\u00a0 It&#8217;s John 3:16 and I suspect we have all known it all our lives.\u00a0 We say we believe it.\u00a0 What if we started believing the whole thing?<\/p>\n<p>What if we started believing God and not believing our fears?<\/p>\n<p>Bottom line: What will it take for us to start to take Jesus at His word?<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In an article on this website, I shared a couple of the strongest affirmations of Scripture which declare that our salvation, once given by the Lord Jesus Christ, is forever secure. 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