10 questions for those not accepting “once saved always”

(I send this forth in all sincerity and with the kindness of Christ. If you disagree, please respond graciously also. God’s people should be able to have a serious and Christ-honoring discussion about this hotly debated subject.  Thank you.)

Let me set the table with something the Lord Jesus said.  When the disciples returned from preaching with glowing reports of amazing victories over the devil, our Lord called them back to earth, so to speak, with this:

“Do not rejoice because the spirits are subject to you. But rejoice because your names are written in heaven” (Luke 10:20).

Now, look at what He did there.  The Lord changed the basis of their joy and thanksgiving from something that fluctuates–like the outward results of missions, which can be good or bad, up and down–to something permanent and unchanging, our salvation.

The Lord Jesus clearly thought our salvation was secure. And He should know, right?

Otherwise, wouldn’t He have chosen some other basis for our joy?

No other conclusion is possible. Jesus clearly thought salvation was a once-and-done proposition. Something permanent, solid, irreversible.

As far as I am able to tell, you will not find one place in the utterances of the Lord Jesus that say otherwise.

For those who find they cannot accept the teaching of “once saved always saved” (aka, the security of the believer), we have a few questions….

1)  Why would you not accept the clear teachings of the Lord Jesus?

That question alone ought to cinch the matter.  For every objection some can throw up to the doctrine of “the security of the believer” we have perhaps 50 statements from the Lord Jesus that our salvation is eternal and everlasting and untouchable.

2) How is it you think we can undo what God has done?

Scripture teaches God erased your sin and gave you eternal life.  He wrote your name down in Heaven’s book and made you His child. You were both “born again” and “adopted” into the family.  You are sealed with the Holy Spirit.  In fact, Romans 8:30 says you are called, justified, and glorified even. And Romans 8:1 says there is “therefore now NO condemnation.”  That’s fairly strong, it seems to me.

And yet, some believe by an act of their free will, they can walk away from all that.

They believe they can undo all the Lord did in salvation.

3) How is it we are able to do what “no one” can, and that is to “snatch” ourselves out of Christ’s hand and the Father’s hand?

John 10:28-29.  Nothing can be clearer.

Some say, “Well, no one else can, but the devil can.” Wouldn’t that make the devil stronger than the Lord?  And to those who says “we can snatch ourselves,” same question.  Jesus literally said “no one and nothing can take you out of my hand.”

4) How are we able to unseal ourselves, something the Holy Spirit did when we were saved? (Ephesians 1:13) Wouldn’t that be an impossibility?

5) Have you read Galatians and seen what Paul said to people who thought they were perfected by their works?

They said they knew they were saved by faith, but after that, it was all works to them. Good works and they’re in; bad works and they’re cast away. And Paul says they were bad wrong….

You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified?  This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? (Galatians 3:1-3)

If you believe bad works cancels your salvation, then aren’t you saying your works “keep” you saved?  Certainly, works are definitely important.  Ephesians 2:10 says we were created in Christ Jesus in order to bring forth good works, “that God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.”

6) Does it make you angry for someone to teach once saved, always saved?  If so, please analyze why.  It seems to me you would be more charitable toward your brothers and sisters who are taking Jesus’ statements at face value.

Some years back, Charisma magazine posted our article  “7 questions on once saved, always saved” on their website.  The comments that rushed in were almost universally hostile. They weren’t just disagreeing, they were angry. Now, I had worked overtime to make sure the tone of my article was gracious toward those who disagree. But I find it hard to comprehend that they grew hostile and mean-spirited over this.   I wonder what this signifies.

7) Do you wish you did have this kind of confidence that salvation, once given, is forever?

A preacher who believes in losing his salvation once told a pastor friend that “I wish my God were as big as yours.”

My wife once asked a new friend who was a fine godly man, how he reconciled his denomination’s position on this doctrine (they were Arminian) with Scripture.  Heno Head of Leland, Mississippi, said, “I have never for one minute doubted that my salvation is eternally secure in Jesus Christ from the moment I was saved.”

8) Do you agree that no matter which side you come down on–for this doctrine or against it–there are some difficult scriptures to explain?  And if that’s the case, why then would you choose the position that undermines the very things Jesus said and taught?

I give unto them eternal life, and they shall never perish; and no one shall snatch them out of my hand.  My Father, who gave them to me, is greater than all. And no one is able to snatch them out of my Father’s hand (John 10:28-29).

I will readily admit that the passage in Hebrews 6 seems to say that losing one’s salvation is a possibility. However, it says that if that did happen, “it would be impossible to renew them to repentance.”  Now, think of that…

I have never met anyone who believed in losing one’s salvation who did not also believe he could get it back and be saved again. And again.  My response is simply: Show me one person in the Bible who was ever saved twice.

There is no such person.  Not one.

9) Are you closed to the subject? or are you still open to considering evidence for the contrary view?

I hope that nothing in these articles of mine has made anyone think Joe believes he has all the answers and that I am closed to something new.  No one possesses all truth, let alone this country boy.

Most especially, I hope no one thinks this is–as some have charged–a man-made doctrine, intended either to say what man wants to hear or to license him to roam as he pleases without fear of jeopardizing his salvation.

I grew up going to a Free Will Baptist Church and for several years, a Methodist church.  Both are Arminian, which means they do not believe “once saved always.”  I was in college before I joined a Southern Baptist church. Even then, the doctrine played only a small part in my joining West End Baptist in Birmingham. Only by studying this doctrine in Scripture did I come to this conclusion.

10) Does God mean what He says?  When He says “eternal life,” doesn’t He mean “eternal life?” 

Put another way, when the children of the Lord “lose” their salvation, do they quit being HIs children?

Consider this a plea for clear-thinking on the subject, for believing the whole thrust of Scripture’s teaching, for standing on the promises of God’s unchanging Word.

Thank you.  God help us to get this right.  For Jesus’ sake.

2 thoughts on “10 questions for those not accepting “once saved always”

  1. The saddest thing I’ve ever heard was my Mennonite uncle asking his wife who had been in a bad accident and might not survive if she was sure she was right with God. She said yes I believe I am. I am so grateful I never need to consider that question.

  2. This is certainly not original with me, but I heard a preacher ask the question “if you don’t have eternal security on earth, what makes you think you will have it in heaven”. That brings up some interesting questions. I suppose we are not capable of sin in heaven? Then again Satan sure was capable.

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