SEVEN CHURCHES: The Initial Run of “Unlimited Partnerships”

This is Bill Taylor’s brain child. Officially retired from Lifeway Christian Resources as their senior educational consultant–Southern Baptists’ Mr. Sunday School–Bill now works for the North American Mission Board as a “senior strategist.” On numerous occasions he has spent several days in our part of the world and with churches on the Mississippi Gulf Coast, looking for a key way to make a difference.

Out of that search came “Unlimited Partnerships.” Bill began to imagine a plan by which we could match a gifted and dedicated seminary student with one of our local needy churches to serve a year or more in the area of education and evangelism. He imagined large churches in the SBC led by consecrated pastors who would want to pay the salaries of these students. Then, he set out to make it happen.

“We couldn’t have done it without David Hankins,” Bill Taylor said, referring to the executive of Louisiana Baptists. “When he first heard of this, he told me, ‘Bill, this is the right thing to do. Even if you can’t find the sponsoring churches, we will back it.'” But it wasn’t necessary. “It wasn’t a matter of dollars,” Bill explained. “This was all about matching up enterprising students with responsive churches and successful sponsors who could teach them and mentor them.”

The program kicked off March 1, with 7 students working out of 7 of our churches. This is the pilot program, a test run by which we find out what works and what doesn’t. We’re finding our way.

For the record, here are the seven churches.


New Covenant, Thomas Glover pastor, has Bethany Hales as their student and Forest Hills Baptist Church (Charles Roesel, interim pastor) as their sponsor. Larry Ware is the educational minister for FHBC. Located in the largest neighborhood in the state (Woodmere), New Covenant has a small membership and a determined pastor.

New Salem, Warren Jones pastor, has Bobby Wood as their student and FBC Dallas (Bill Anderson, interim pastor) as their sponsor. Dillard Wilbanks is the educational minister and Mike Miller the executive pastor at Dallas. Located in the middle of the 9th Ward of New Orleans, New Salem is 3 blocks from the new homes being built by the Musicians Village/Baptist Crossroads.

Highland, Metairie, Scott Smith pastor, has Justin Woulard as its student and FBC Jacksonville (Mac Brunson, pastor) as its sponsor. Lewis Howard is the educational minister. Highland took a lot of damage from the hurricane, but has become a center for ministry teams working in the city.

FBC Norco, Rudy French pastor, has Jason Sampler as its student and FBC Allen, Texas (Chad Selph, pastor) as its sponsor. Jeff Humphrey is the educational minister. We’ve reported here on several occasions how Rudy led this church to revamp its entire focus to become a mission center.

Gentilly, Ken Taylor pastor, has John Sanders (possibly; I’m not sure of this) as its student and FBC Woodstock (Johnny Hunt, pastor) as its sponsor. Allan Taylor is the educational minister. After the demolition of his beloved Elysian Fields Avenue Baptist Church, Ken Taylor moved the remnants of his congregation to Gentilly and gathered the few remaining members from that church; they’re merging.

Edgewater, Kevin Lee pastor, has Matthew Middlecamp as its student and Evangeline Association (including FBC LaFayette; Steve Horn, pastor) as its sponsor. The DOM for Evangeline is Bert Langley and Gary Ruffin is the educational minister for the Lafayette church. Kevin moved to this devastated church after Katrina and has led in its rebuilding; they are having a great impact in that community.

Memorial, Metairie, Jackie Gestes pastor, has Jonathan Young as its student and Prestonwood, Dallas (Jack Graham, pastor) as its sponsor. Michael Fechner is the educational minister and Mike Buster is the executive pastor. Jackie arrived as pastor only last August, and is still working with insurance companies to get ready to rebuild the sanctuary for their greatly-decreased congregation.

The sponsoring church is available for guidance, counsel, and support to the local pastor, church, and student. And one fascinating aspect of the plan is that all the local pastors and students will devote one entire Monday each month to coming together to hear from one of the sponsoring pastors, a sponsoring educational minister, and some layperson selected by Bill Taylor. Today, Monday, March 19, was the first of these. Chad Selph and Allan Taylor were the ministers. Ralph Conwill was the layman. “He’s my Sunday School teacher,” Bill Taylor said, “and retired from Monsanto Chemical.”

What follows are my notes on today’s meeting.

Professor Joe Sherrer, NOBTS: The students get 9 hours credit for this project and pay no tuition whatsoever. “I’ve never seen Dr. Kelley sign off on free tuition ever! This shows his commitment to this project.” This seminary’s purpose is “to train leaders for healthy SBC churches.” NOBTS is becoming known as the Christian Education seminary.

Freddie Arnold: This has been a dream of mine for the past 5 years. I’m a church planter strategist but have been doing educational work in the association because there was no one else. I love educational work. God has ordained this project and is blessing it. We expect it will bless countless other churches in time.

Bill Taylor: A big part of what we will be doing is building relationships. Everyone has a story. We want to hear yours. (Note: we then spent the better part of the day telling our stories.) I’m going to run this like a staff meeting. Johnny Hunt says, “I don’t want reports; I want you to speak out of your passion.”

What I tell people who are interested in joining our staff: 1) are you lazy? 2) are you for the preacher? and 3) can you work without supervision? Because I’m going to assign you to an area where you will not get a lot of supervision. We’ll support you until you drop the ball.

Chad Selph (FBC Allen, TX): (Note: I was late coming back from lunch and missed the first part of his message.) We are constantly evaluating leadership in our church. A big issue is how to find staff-members with character. We interview 20 or more to fill one position, and we find many otherwise good people with major problems–financial problems, people lying to you, poor work ethics, a lack of drive, laziness, no personal growth going on, and no interest in building the ministry but only maintaining it. We look at their seminary grades to see if them know how to discipline themselves.

In visiting with prospective staffers, we put them in non-traditional settings. Take them to eat and notice how they treat the waiter. Tour a school with them and notice if they speak to people. These things matter.

Churches are always in transition. Change is a constant in every church. I’m always changing. As we minister to church members–counseling, weddings, funerals, a note, a visit–we build up credits. You cash in the credits when you have to take a stand on some unpopular issue. We had a failure of a beloved staff member whom we had to dismiss. This was not something we could stand in front of the church and discuss. It took every credit I had amassed, but the congregation supported us and we did not lose a single member over it. They trust you after you have earned it, and that allows you to lead them.

In considering staff additions to our church, we conduct criminal background checks and run credit reports. I want to know if the staffer is a tither, if he or she lives by what they teach.

Chad recommended the Bill Hybels book on leadership, “Good to Great.”

Allan Taylor (Woodstock Church, Georgia): When you’re new in the church, have lunch with a different leader every day. Spend time getting to know them. If you’re a staffer, get to know your pastor and to know his heart. If you’re going to play second fiddle, you should be in tune with the first fiddle. I tell my pastor I will support you, but I want to be heard by you. At the end of our talk, whatever he decides, I’ll support him.

You’re in the people business, and ought to love people. Relationships is the key. The first rule of winning (Allan used to be a coach) is: Don’t beat yourself. I’ve seen educational ministers with a great understanding of the Word and human nature, people who grasped the philosophy and had read all the important books, I’ve seen them beat themselves by poor people skills.

Every leader sets three things.

1) A leader sets the standards. For Sunday School teachers, we set high standards. We interview them, do background checks, and ask them to commit themselves to a monthly Sunday School leadership meeting. If they’re not willing to do that, they cannot teach. You can’t play on the team if you don’t come to practice. We require that our workers tithe and we forbid any use of alcohol. If you don’t set standards, you are not a leader. Every CEO sets the standards for the company. The coach sets them for the team. You set them for your church’s leaders.

2) A leader sets the directions. Where are we headed? The leader blazes the path, funneling the organizational energy toward the goal. If the leader does not set the direction, it dilutes the energy.

3) A leader sets the atmosphere. I tell our people there are three words they should keep uppermost in their minds at church: speak, smile, touch. Speak to everyone you see at church. Acknowledge them, even if it’s just with a wave of the hand. Smile at them, and if you can, shake their hand. Touch them.

It’s so easy to fail to live up to your own standards in the ministry. My accountant tells me he does the taxes for 600 pastors, of whom only 150 tithe their incomes to the church.

Make sure you emulate what you exhort.

(I regret not hearing Ralph Conwill’s presentation. Mondays, I have a mentoring group that meets in mid-afternoon and had to leave early to drive across the city.)

Bill Taylor’s goal is one day to have fifty churches in this part of the world involved in such a program. Across the Mississippi Gulf Coast there are so many wounded churches that could benefit from this.

“This is deserving of prayer,” Bill says.

We’re asking our friends to lift these 7 churches, 7 ministers, 7 students, and 7 sponsoring churches to the Father.

“So many opportunities, so many obstacles,” as Paul said in I Corinthians 16:9.

10 thoughts on “SEVEN CHURCHES: The Initial Run of “Unlimited Partnerships”

  1. By requiring your workers to tithe you make yourself into a legalistic hypocrite. God’s Word does not require gospel workers or elders or deacons to tithe — BUT YOU DO! That CAUSES the SIN of the rich running the church which is condemned by James. That means that the Holy Spirit only gives spiritual gifts to those who are financially blessed which is unbiblical. Shame on you — you hypocrite. When your dying mother or father must go to a hospice which charges $6000 to $8000 a month I guess you will let them die because you cannot afford to put them in a hospiece and tithe too. Your attitude is unbiblical and is turning the church into a club for rich people. The poor who are gifted are pushed out the back door when it comes to leadership. 1st Tim 5:8; 2 Cor 12:14; Acts 20:29-35. Try to rebut my 19 point essay if you can.

    Russell Earl Kelly

  2. Bro. Joe,

    Thanks for the openness of your factual article. The evidence seems to be that Mr. Kelly was convicted for not tithing, and he is trying to justify it. I guess he sees himself as being smarter than Melchizedek. Who tithed. I know we are under grace and not the law but I have yet to find a way to out give God. All Christians should tithe and that is the least. Yes even Mr. Kelly.

  3. Rev. Kelly is welcome to debate the merits (or demerits) of tithing with the widow who gave her last two mites, if he does so in a civil manner. One can only guess whether or not that poor woman was able to afford a hospice in her declining years…

    What he is NOT allowed to do is spam this blog in an attempt to promote his book, or to call my father a hypocrite — unless he says it to my face.

  4. Note from Joe:

    I have no idea who Mr. Kelly is. I went to his website (devoted to promoting his book) to leave a brief response and was informed that my message was blocked because I was not on his list of preferred correspondents. So, I’ll leave the response here on my own website.

    How does that line from Shakespeare go–“Methinks he doth protest too much.” This man has a problem and “it ain’t tithing.” When you’re having a casual conversation–please note that all I was doing was reporting what two of the speakers at Monday’s seminary meeting had said–and someone erupts with bitterness and anger all out of proportion to the subject at hand, something is bad wrong.

    He accuses me of hypocrisy and legalism of the worst sort–and even classism, letting the rich run the church–when there’s not a word in the article on what I believe about tithing. That’s why I say this guy has a problem.

    Our Lord said, “By this shall all men know that you are My disciples, that you love one another.” I defy anyone to find love in his paragraph above. You can find hostility and anger, but no love. Therefore, he fails the very first test of Christianity, a love for his brother. I have never met him, do not know him, and yet this is how he begins a conversation on that subject! Of course, by blocking any response, he gets his two bits in and then runs away before we can answer.

    I suppose the other thing that irks me a little about his tirade is his position on the subject of tithing. Does he think that we have not considered the arguments against tithing? (I started to expound on this here, but have decided to save it for an article on this blog, to which we will invite everyone EXCEPT Mr. Kelly to respond. I asked Marty to block any response from him. We’ve heard all I care to from this gentleman.)

    We will welcome any response, any position, any disagreement. Just be respectful in doing it. After all, Jesus did not say people would know we were His disciples by our agreement on doctrine, but by our love.

  5. Kelly’s diatribe led me to investigate who he is. His on-line bio (where he counts hits to his website as “obvious evidence” of like minds) proclaims that he’s legally blind. No kidding, and not just physically. I’ve heard it said that the handicapped will compensate in one area to make up for their disability in another. Apparently he believes that his sharp pen/tongue balance his deficiency. Me thinks he qualifies for multiple disabilities.

  6. Hi Joe,

    Regarding the book “Good to Great”, I think the author is Jim Collins, not Bill Hybels.

    Daryl

  7. I’m certain that you’ll get lots of stories like mine…but I just had to respond to the hostility in Mr. Kelly’s letter.

    For the last ten years, I’ve been a single mom raising two kids and working two jobs after my pastor-husband decided he didn’t want to be married any longer.

    I’m certainly not and have never been rich. But I’ve proven God’s faithfulness by my committment to the tithe. My beloved parents did the same when my dad was laid off his job at 59 years old!

    You’re right, Bro. Joe. Mr. Kelly has many issues that go much deeper than tithing. He needs to be bathed in prayer…I’m praying that our precious Lord will send someone in his life to reach him for the Father.

    I’m so excited about the work of Unlimited Partnerships and will pray faithfully for everyone involved. Keep us informed, Bro. Joe!

    Blessings,

    Becky

  8. Rev. Kelley has other problems. Leave the poor guy alone, he’s not interested in any of our thoughts anyway. This article is about UNLIMITED PARTNERSHIPS, not tithing. There’s another article on tithing.

    Unltd. Partnerships is one of the most beneficial and helpful projects with which I’ve been involved. Bill Taylor is a blessing. Like Joe McK, the guy’s worth following. May their tribe increase!

    Please pray for Unlimited Partnerships. The emeny has already taken notice and thrown a couple darts (why is anyone surprised by that?). Don’t pray for 7; pray for 50. Please pray that 50 sponsors connect 50 churches to 50 students all along the Gulf Coast. Where Katrina ravaged, the Lord rebuilds! While you’re at it, pray the students don’t get so wrapped up in their ministries that they let their studies slide. Pray that we find, place, and equip African American and Hispanic students. Pray that Rev. Kelley gets some medicine. Pray the Saints win the Super Bowl. Pray against global warming and hurricanes. OK, now I’m the one who’s off task, sorry (thanks for the post Joe–you rock).

  9. Doctor…one thing about open blogs is that you get all kinds….some you like and some you don’t like. Did you ever notice a doberman walking down the sidewalk and a little fiest following and barking? The doberman just goes on about his business and pays no mind to the little noise maker. Keep up the good work. If everyone agrees with you, then some of you ain’t necessary. Calling someone names just because you don’t agree with them ain’t spiritual. Luvya brother.

  10. By the way, hospice services are free and they minister to the dying….no charge. Mr Kelly has a lot of other things to learn.

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